Curse

Cador · Oct 28, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Ultimately to me they seem to have made PvE even more PVP oriented.

Now you have to worry about slowing down that target. *cough* Kiting *cough*

Solar_Takfar · Oct 28, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Human monk enemies tend to kite. That's what I've noticed so far, and it sounds fair to me.

Mai · Oct 28, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

In relation I find that dodgeball is boring because the other players are refusing to stand still and be hit by the balls I throw.

/emo

Bastian · Oct 28, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Avarre

There is a reason Anet are game developers and you are not. One of these reasons is because they know better how to create a game.

PvE is fine. PvP is excellent with some nice implementations like the new PvP chars.

The game is not a democracy. I assure you, for every complaint you make I can find someone that disagrees with you. Anet listens to the majority - and you are not in it.

The only one being arrogant is you for assuming the developers are here to make the game on your whims.

Wow - please run a business one day and say to your customers - "Hey! I don't care what YOU think, its what I think that matters."

LOL! Good luck having a successful business.

Things were fine before, and now ANet has a lot of pissed off customers. I know you may not be one of them, but if we don't do our job as a democratic people and let them know our complaints - how can we get anything fixed?

Of course, you are probably someone that doesn't vote, doesn't care about what goes on around them, would never stage a protest about what is right, and believes that no cop has ever lied in court. Get a life and grow up. If it wasn't for this sort of thing (people rebelling) America wouldn't even be a country under its own rule.

So yes, you can sit back and accept everything that happens to you - or you can do a little rebelling when the sh*t hits the fan.

Criminally Sane · Oct 28, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Cador

Ultimately to me they seem to have made PvE even more PVP oriented.

Now you have to worry about slowing down that target. *cough* Kiting *cough*

In other words, now you might have to use your brain a little in PvE too! Something some of you complaining seem a little hesitant to do. The days of C-Space spam may be over, hoes noes.

/not directed at anyone in particular

Theus · Oct 28, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by Criminally Sane

In other words, now you might have to use your brain a little in PvE too! Something some of you complaining seem a little hesitant to do. The days of C-Space spam may be over, hoes noes.

/not directed at anyone in particular

Don't worry,someone will be offended.

Mai · Oct 28, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Theus

Don't worry,someone will be offended.

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Originally Posted by Criminally Sane

In other words, now you might have to use your brain a little in PvE too! Something some of you complaining seem a little hesitant to do. The days of C-Space spam may be over, hoes noes.

/not directed at anyone in particular

I'm offended by the word "Hoes"!

tomcruisejr · Oct 28, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Blackest Rose

Last night (playing a normal quest) I hit a monster with a sword and he ran away from me, one hit and he ran and continued to run away - what's the point of this? it doesn't make the game fun - I just ran after him, 30 secs later he runs out of places to run and I kill him.

Now do that with every monster - instead of spending my time fighting and using skills etc I'm going to spend the majority of my time chasing after stuff?
Is running after stuff considered fun - not in my book.

I was in Random Arena playing crip shot and this warrior was hitting me. twas a 1vs1 match (coz our own team mates died). i ran away from him and he kept on chasing me. he said, "OMG NOOB RUNNER, COME FIGHT". I just ran around, crippled him, ran again and after some minutes he left. And my team won. it was our 10th win. i got a gladiator point and that was the last one for me to become a Mighty Gladiator (3).

AI runs away from damage? thats good. now AI got chance to "WIN".

Running rocks.

Hell Marauder · Oct 28, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Anet is doing this for everybody's benefit. If Anet wants to nerf solo farming, all they have to do is to place a few mesmer or necro mobs here and there, but they didn't. So all these whining about solo farming nerf is unfounded. If anything, it's bot farmers' fun that's been hurt by this update. So here is to whiners, either you're with bot farmers or you're with us the real players, pick your side.

Mr_T_bot · Oct 28, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by Hell Marauder

Anet is doing this for everybody's benefit. If Anet wants to nerf solo farming, all they have to do is to place a few mesmer or necro mobs here and there, but they didn't. So all these whining about solo farming nerf is unfounded. If anything, it's bot farmers' fun that's been hurt by this update. So here is to whiners, either you're with bot farmers or you're with us the real players, pick your side.

No, if they wanted to nerf solo farming they would fix the bugs with negative rune stacking.

Chicken Ftw · Oct 28, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Bastian

Things were fine before, and now ANet has a lot of pissed off customers. I know you may not be one of them, but if we don't do our job as a democratic people and let them know our complaints - how can we get anything fixed?

Of course, you are probably someone that doesn't vote, doesn't care about what goes on around them, would never stage a protest about what is right, and believes that no cop has ever lied in court. Get a life and grow up. If it wasn't for this sort of thing (people rebelling) America wouldn't even be a country under its own rule.

So yes, you can sit back and accept everything that happens to you - or you can do a little rebelling when the sh*t hits the fan.

Are you as clueless and ignorant as you sound? For one, your trolling could use some work. "Of course, you are probably someone that doesn't vote, doesn't care about what goes on around them, would never stage a protest about what is right, and believes that no cop has ever lied in court. Get a life and grow up." C'mon, that's just sad. Try harder next time.

Secondly, ANet has made dozens of changes that people didn't like in the past. None of which have been reversed. Why? Because the majority of people liked and accepted them. Ever heard of "if it's not broken, don't fix it"? That's pretty much what's happening here.

Guess I'll leave you alone now, you have a revolution to lead and all. VIVA LA SPAM C-SPACE NEVER CHANGE MY BUILD EVER PVENUBS REVOLUTION!

Bastian · Oct 28, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Are you as clueless and ignorant as you sound? For one, your trolling could use some work. "Of course, you are probably someone that doesn't vote, doesn't care about what goes on around them, would never stage a protest about what is right, and believes that no cop has ever lied in court. Get a life and grow up." C'mon, that's just sad. Try harder next time.

Secondly, ANet has made dozens of changes that people didn't like in the past. None of which have been reversed. Why? Because the majority of people liked and accepted them. Ever heard of "if it's not broken, don't fix it"? That's pretty much what's happening here.

Guess I'll leave you alone now, you have a revolution to lead and all. VIVA LA SPAM C-SPACE NEVER CHANGE MY BUILD EVER PVENUBS REVOLUTION!

Well, I won't touch on the first part - because you can't make someone care that doesn't.

But, your second statement makes absolutely no sense and I hope your GED level of education really shows. What was broken in the past? Was there as many people complaining before than there are now? Hmmm... Sound like it WASN'T Broken - so they SHOULDN'T have fixed it. But, again, i guess for the less educated out there you wouldn't understand that you make no sense.

I guess the education level is really a reason too that you don't see a necessity in ever challenging things around you. But I guess when your life's ambition is to flip burgers or work for Walmart then you wouldn't understand how challenging things has shaped this world for the better.

I guess my post wouldn't sound all that impressive to a person with the mind of 9 year old with brain cancer.

EternalTempest · Oct 28, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

I found that Anet has scaled up GW to make it more difficult and the new inscription/armor version, better AI, micromangement / Hero npc control makes GW better.

They have evolved GW and I find it more challenging and rewarding and I love it. Wasn't the main complaint against PvE factions it was too fast, not as much content, gets boring too quick.

I agree for players that farm as there primary play style are NOT going to like changes and it's alright to state I don't like X and Y, but it's also my right to state I love X and Y and here's why

Anyone how doesn't think this game won't radically change again... look at the "orginal" launch GW to what it is now.

BrutusV · Oct 28, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Secondly, ANet has made dozens of changes that people didn't like in the past. None of which have been reversed. Why? Because the majority of people liked and accepted them.

That's a cop-out statement to make because it's the easiest to make and the least verifiable one.

The people that "accepted" changes may eventually become the majority because those that don't have stopped playing, but no one can verify that the people who accepted the changes were the majority in the beginning.

Also, people that stayed and accepted the changes may not necessarily like them even long after they have adapted to it.

I suppose if you were in Boston when the English imposed higher tea taxes you'll just adapt too huh.

Chicken Ftw · Oct 28, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Bastian

Well, I won't touch on the first part - because you can't make someone care that doesn't.

But, your second statement makes absolutely no sense and I hope your GED level of education really shows. What was broken in the past? Was there as many people complaining before than there are now? Hmmm... Sound like it WASN'T Broken - so they SHOULDN'T have fixed it. But, again, i guess for the less educated out there you wouldn't understand that you make no sense.

I guess the education level is really a reason too that you don't see a necessity in ever challenging things around you. But I guess when your life's ambition is to flip burgers or work for Walmart then you wouldn't understand how challenging things has shaped this world for the better.

I guess my post wouldn't sound all that impressive to a person with the mind of 9 year old with brain cancer.

I'm not even going to touch any parts of your statement but the wrong ones... oh wait, that's everything you've posted. <_<

Let me rephrase then, I'll only touch the part that refers to Guild Wars. 55 monks got a huge nerf with protective bond back in the day. Thousands of players cried about it. No change was made. Why? 'Cause no change needed to be made. Same thing applies now. Adapt a little - it's part of the Guild Wars universe. If you ever played a little PvP, you'd know how to adapt by now. Well, either that or you're still a scrub. Which, btw, you do sound like. Not willing to adapt? Play something else.

Don't see the relevance between A GAME and LIFE. You want to start a war because your precious build in a game doesn't work as well as it used to, have fun. Morons. >_>

Avarre · Oct 28, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by Bastian

Things were fine before, and now ANet has a lot of pissed off customers.

Yeah, the chinese bot farmers are crying a great deal.

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Of course, you are probably someone that doesn't vote, doesn't care about what goes on around them, would never stage a protest about what is right, and believes that no cop has ever lied in court.

Assume more.

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Get a life and grow up.

Says someone crying over changes to a computer game.

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So yes, you can sit back and accept everything that happens to you - or you can do a little rebelling when the sh*t hits the fan.

How, exactly, is this a terrible crime that you must oppose. More importantly, what exactly are you opposing? Your own incapability to play the game?

xXa1 · Oct 28, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Avarre

There is a reason Anet are game developers and you are not. One of these reasons is because they know better how to create a game.

PvE is fine. PvP is excellent with some nice implementations like the new PvP chars.

The game is not a democracy. I assure you, for every complaint you make I can find someone that disagrees with you. Anet listens to the majority - and you are not in it.

The only one being arrogant is you for assuming the developers are here to make the game on your whims.

exactly the kind of arrogance i was referring to.

you know avarre, if this is the way you run your business, it is no surprise why you have all the time to do all the things you do ... no customers eh?

like any business, game developers need to develop the game FOR the market otherwise the only income they are going to get is from the likes of you and that really isn't going to be much.

Chicken Ftw · Oct 28, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by xXa1

exactly the kind of arrogance i was referring to.

you know avarre, if this is the way you run your business, it is no surprise why you have all the time to do all the things you do ... no customers eh?

like any business, game developers need to develop the game FOR the market otherwise the only income they are going to get is from the likes of you and that really isn't going to be much.

Funny, I see just as many people disagreeing that the "nerf" needs changing as I do complaining about it. Who's to say who the market is here, when it's split pretty evenly?

The Pointless · Oct 28, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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like any business, game developers need to develop the game FOR the market otherwise the only income they are going to get is from the likes of you and that really isn't going to be much.

Yeah, and because of that "market", many of today's games are genuinely pathetic.

lyra_song · Oct 28, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

You know what happens when all a video game company does is Fanservice?

You end up with crap like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2

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No depth. Just PURE fanservice.

If ANY sort of artist (musician, painter, game designer) stopped creating and instead all they did was listen to their fans, what do you get?

A sell out. Something with no heart.

Something that didn't come from their HEART.

Something that came from their minds and hungry wallets.

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I'll make an analogy using my job.

Im a digital artist. I draw stuff (*golf clap*)

Now....If i client comes up to me, and says to me "Hey, can you make an illustration based on the concept of a 'Formidable Challenge' ?"

Im going to sit down and brainstorm and come up with ideas and present to the client.

Now heres the thing. Some clients will always think they know better. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS.

"Blah blah, but this other guy did this, why dont you do that? why do you have to do that?"

Just SHUT UP and let me do the job you paid me to do. I'm designing FOR YOU. YOU are not designing for yourself because YOU werent trained to. YOU dont have the experience, the technical know-how, or the right mindset to do the job you hired someone else to do. Just TRUST me to do my job. And trust yourself that you picked the right artist.

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All you see is your piece of the puzzle. The creator's job is the see the whole picture.